Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 17

04/06/2006 01:30 PM House TRANSPORTATION


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HCR 38 FAST FERRIES TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Postponed>
+= HB 397 APPROP: ANCHORAGE SIGNAL UPGRADE TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+= SB 304 AIRPORT PARKING SHUTTLES/AIRPORT CHARGES TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS SB 304(TRA) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
SB 304-AIRPORT PARKING SHUTTLES/AIRPORT CHARGES                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO announced  that the first order  of business would                                                               
be SENATE  BILL NO. 304,  "An Act  relating to the  privileges of                                                               
airport  parking shuttles  and to  fees or  charges imposed  on a                                                               
person who is  not a lessee or  holder of a privilege  to use the                                                               
property or a facility of an airport."                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ELKINS  moved Amendment 1, labeled  24-LS1678\F.2, Kane,                                                               
4/6/06, as follows [original punctuation provided]:                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Page 1, lines 2-3:                                                                                                         
          Delete "holder of a privilege to use the property                                                                     
     or a facility"                                                                                                             
          Insert "concessionaire"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, lines 8-9:                                                                                                         
          Delete "person holding a privilege to use the                                                                         
     property or facility"                                                                                                      
          Insert "concessionaire of the airport"                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Page 2, line 10, following "person":                                                                                       
          Insert "as a condition of on-site access to                                                                           
     customers  who use  the  airport  facility, unless  the                                                                    
     charge, rental, or fee was  in existence before January                                                                    
     1,  2006, and  this exception  is not  affected if  the                                                                    
     department  amends, increases,  or decreases  a charge,                                                                    
     rental, or  fee that  was in  effect before  January 1,                                                                    
     2006"                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
RYAN  MAKINSTER,  Staff to  Senator  John  Cowdery, Alaska  State                                                               
Legislature,  said,  "The  bill  removes the  ability  to  charge                                                               
percent-of-gross  revenue  for off-airport  establishments,"  and                                                               
on-airport services are exempt.   It was brought to his attention                                                               
that the  bill would  affect other  ratepayers, and  he explained                                                               
that  off-airport  rental facilities  already  pay  8 percent  of                                                               
gross revenue.   So without  the amendment, the bill  will affect                                                               
that group of business people, he  stated.  Amendment 1 keeps the                                                               
intent of  the bill  while excluding all  users that  already pay                                                               
such  a  fee.   He  said  those  companies have  "obviously  been                                                               
comfortable" with  those fees.   But the amendment says  that the                                                               
off-airport  parking  company  or  any  new  facility  cannot  be                                                               
charged the same way for access to the airport.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO  asked  if  [the fee  system]  would  default  to                                                               
another system, or if that would be negotiated.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. MAKINSTER  said, "Right now  it's kind of defaulting  to what                                                               
system they're  working on; right  now they have a  fee schedule.                                                               
We're  not dictating,  necessarily,  the fee  schedule or  system                                                               
that the airport  has.  We're just saying, unless  you're a small                                                               
group, you're on-air, or you're  currently being charged by gross                                                               
revenue,  you  won't be  charged  by  that computational  method.                                                               
We're not  putting a  limit on  prices, what  the fees  are, what                                                               
they may be.  That's been  up to the discretion of the department                                                               
before, and we're not changing that.   We're just saying that you                                                               
cannot  go  into   a  private  entity's  books   to  fulfill  the                                                               
obligation to decide fees."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:39:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO  asked  if  any system  that  pertains  to  gross                                                               
revenue  would  have to  be  across  the board  for  concessions,                                                               
parking, taxis, or anything else.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MAKINSTER said  no,  only for  similar  services.   "They're                                                               
receiving  a  different  privilege  depending  on  the  different                                                               
service  groups,  so a  rental  car  agency  would, in  fact,  be                                                               
different than  a shuttle  agency," he  said.   It is  defined by                                                               
similarity of business, he explained.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:40:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DAN  COFFE,  Attorney, Diamond  Parking,  said  he once  owned  a                                                               
rental  car company  and  fought  paying this  fee  then, but  he                                                               
doesn't care  if the car rental  companies remain in the  bill or                                                               
not.   He said rental car  companies won't "flee the  airport" if                                                               
"we stop charging  a $250 or small percentage  fee to off-airport                                                               
operators."  He said they are "trying  to blow smoke at you."  He                                                               
stated,  "What  we are  trying  to  accomplish  here, is  have  a                                                               
reasonable  and  appropriate  fee  for  using  the  curb  service                                                               
applicable  to  those   of  us  who  are   operators  of  shuttle                                                               
companies."   There are  a variety  of shuttles,  including hotel                                                               
operators and Diamond Parking, he  said, and the airport wants to                                                               
charge Diamond Parking a fee of  8 percent of its gross receipts.                                                               
Eight percent of  their receipts would be $108,000  per year, and                                                               
he believes it  is contradictory to existing  law, which requires                                                               
reasonable fees.   He said he was told his  company was using the                                                               
entire airport because the parking  lot would not be there unless                                                               
the  airport  existed.    That is  a  disingenuous  argument,  he                                                               
opined.   He  said he  told the  airport to  charge per  trip, by                                                               
permit,  or per  head for  all shuttle  companies, "but  don't be                                                               
seeking to tax us with a percentage of the gross revenue."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:43:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. COFFE,  in response to  Co-Chair Gatto, said  Diamond Parking                                                               
is not on airport property.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO said  the airport  makes a  good argument  of "no                                                               
airport, no clients."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  COFFE  said  you  could  extend  that  to  a  lot  of  other                                                               
businesses that depend on travelers coming to Alaska.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO asked if the airport gets part of the bed tax.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:44:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. COFFE said no;  "we keep all the bed tax  for the citizens of                                                               
Anchorage."  The  problem is compounded by the  fact that Diamond                                                               
Parking provides very  good service, and the  airport should have                                                               
a  competitive  advantage  on the  airport  property.    "Instead                                                               
they've sought to  impose this, we call it a  tax, gross receipts                                                               
tax on  an off-airport enterprise, and,  frankly, Diamond Parking                                                               
is the  only one  that they've  addressed this to."   It  is like                                                               
getting  the money  from  the private  sector  instead of  making                                                               
their  airport parking  a better  service,  he stated.   He  said                                                               
Diamond  Parking had  offered to  install  an automatic  counting                                                               
mechanism, and it was turned down.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
1:45:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO noted  that there  is an  airport facility  being                                                               
built  for rental  cars  and asked  Mr. Coffe  if  he foresees  a                                                               
better competitor.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. COFFE  said he  was previously  involved with  the on-airport                                                               
parking garage, and the airport was  very receptive to that.  The                                                               
car rental companies  were willing to impose a  fee on themselves                                                               
to pay  for it.   The notion of  the major car  companies fleeing                                                               
the airport if the off-airport  companies are not taxed mystifies                                                               
him.   The small companies  have a 1  percent market share.   The                                                               
statute shows  that fees  are meant to  be commensurate  with the                                                               
amount of the airport that is used, he said.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:47:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO  noted  that  the  car  companies  took  on  that                                                               
expense, but  actually, when  he rents  a car it  is listed  as a                                                               
separate expense.   "They're not picking up any part  of it."  It                                                               
went up to 10 percent in no time, he said.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. COFFE  said that is true,  and he said "we"  were the impetus                                                               
behind  the project  and willing  to take  the risks  of what  it                                                               
might do to business.  He listed  the taxes that are added to the                                                               
cost  of  renting a  car  and  asked  how  many people  would  go                                                               
elsewhere to rent a car.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:49:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOHN TORGERSON,  Deputy Commissioner  of Aviation,  Department of                                                               
Transportation &  Public Facilities, said  he hasn't had  time to                                                               
look at the amendment.  The  airport is reaching out and charging                                                               
fees  for  an  off-airport  business,  and  this  bill  does  not                                                               
preclude it from doing that but  only prohibits it from using the                                                               
gross revenue  as a way  of collecting fees,  he said.   He added                                                               
that it  is not  true that  the bill is  not telling  the airport                                                               
what to collect.  He told the  committee to read page 2, line 22,                                                               
where it  puts airport  parking shuttles  in with  courtesy cars.                                                               
"There is  a regulation and  fee structure already set  for that,                                                               
which is one of the lowest at the airport."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO asked what the courtesy car fee is.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JOHN   BARSALOU,  Property   Director,  Anchorage   International                                                               
Airport, said it is $250 or $500 per vehicle per year.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO asked about the size of the shuttle.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. BARSALOU said it depends on  the class of business, and there                                                               
are six different classes of ground transportation.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR GATTO said  he wants to confirm that it  is $500 for the                                                               
first vehicle and $50 for each  vehicle thereafter, per year.  He                                                               
asked if that is for any size shuttle, from a car to a bus.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:53:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GATTO  noted that  the  total  cost  for the  year  for                                                               
Diamond Parking is  probably $750 per year, and  the airport plan                                                               
would raise it to $108,000, and that  is why the bill is in front                                                               
of the committee, as well as amendment 1.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Hearing no objections, Amendment 1 carried.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ELKINS moved  to  report  SB 304,  as  amended, out  of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.   Hearing no objection, HCS SB  304(TRA) passed out                                                               
of the House Transportation Standing Committee.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:55:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                

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